The Second Appearing of Christ in the Unseen Spiritual Realm

April 21/2021

Intro: They saw it, and it was recorded. Angels, flaming fire and all… “Not many days after that feast, on the twenty-first day of the month Artemisius, a certain prodigious and incredible phenomenon appeared . . . related by those that saw it . . . for, before sunsetting, chariots and troops of soldiers in their armor were seen running about among the clouds, and surrounding of cities” [Josephus, Wars 6.296-299 (6.5.3)]. “Now it happened after, that there was seen from above over the Holy of Holies for the whole night the outline of a man’s face the like of whose beauty had never been seen in all the land, and his appearance was quite awesome. Moreover, in those days were seen chariots of fire and horsemen, a great force flying across the sky near to the ground coming against Jerusalem and all the land of Judah, all of them horses of fire and riders of fire” [Sepher Yosippon: A Mediaeval History of Ancient Israel. Translated by Steven B. Bowman; Chap. 87 “Burning of the Temple”]. “There had been seen hosts joining battle in the skies, the fiery gleam of arms, the temple illuminated by a sudden radiance from the clouds. The doors of the inner shrine were suddenly thrown open, and a voice of more than mortal tone was heard to cry that the Gods were departing” [Tacitus, Histories, 5.13].

One thing that has made me wonder about is: Every eye will see Him in Rev.1:7.

Then I saw that it was addressed to the Seven Churches. In other words everyone from those Churches would see Him. They were first changed into their immortal Spiritual body and when that happened they could see universally like Jesus and the Angels could. This would explain why no Eskimos saw it or if they did they did not write it down and insist that it be included in the canon of scriptures…lol

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches that are in Asia: Grace to you and peace, from Him who is and who was and who [c]is to come, and from the seven Spirits who are before His throne, 5 and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the firstborn of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To Him who loves us and released us from our sins [d]by His blood— 6 and He has made us to be a kingdom, priests to His God and Father—to Him be the glory and the dominion forever and ever. Amen. 7 Behold, He is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see Him, even those who pierced Him; and all the tribes of the earth will mourn over Him. So it is to be. Amen.

Most believers have no problem believing Jesus was changed into a Life-giving Spirit before He was raptured into Heaven at His Ascension; just like the saints would be changed into their Spiritual redemptive body of those who were alive at the Parousia in AD66 before they Ascended into Heaven.

1 The most amazing thing about the “appearing of the Lord apart from sin” can be proven that it had to have happened in AD70 by seeing it in the appointed times along with the Feasts of the Lord in Leviticus 23 especially during the Fall time when the Blowing of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and the Feast of Tabernacles all role played on for over a thousand years until their fulfillments between AD66 to AD70. 2 The second appearing of Christ confirmed the Day of Atonement of God’s redemptive salvation plan, which was the confirmation of the New Covenant that Daniel spoke of after the High Priest ordered the daily sacrifices to cease in the middle of the 70th week in AD66.

Daniel 9:27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate.”

Ed Stevens “quote” AD 66 — That prince (Eleazar b. Ananias) took full control of the temple and stopped all sacrifices for Gentiles and put the sacrificial system and priesthood in disarray. Thus began his reign of tyranny over the Temple complex. The other Zealot factions (John of Gischala and Simon b. Giora) polluted the temple and ravaged the city with their internecine strife. Throughout all that internal conflict, they also had to deal with the forces of Vespasian and Titus on the outside (constant war and desolations inside and out). “End Quote”

3 These verses below show how all things written about were to be fulfilled during the time of the people in the 1st century, not to us 2000 years later and still counting as Futurist proclaim.

Imminence verses

Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must SHORTLY COME to PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Rev 22:10 Then he told me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this scroll, BECAUSE the TIME is NEAR!

Matthew 16:28 Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matt. 10:23″You shall not finish going through the cities of Israel, until the Son of Man comes.”

Matt. 26:64 “From now on, you Caiaphas, the chief priests, the scribes, the elders, the whole Sanhedrin] shall be seeing the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven.”

Matt 24:24 Jesus said “Truly I tell you, this GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.”

Gal 4:4 Paul wrote “The fullness of time was come”

1 Cor. 7:29 Paul wrote -“Time is short”

1 Cor. 7:31 The world in its present form is passing away”

Rom 13:11-12 “Understand the present time: …because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. The night is nearly over; the day is almost here”

Rom 16:20 “The God of peace will SOON (shortly) crush Satan under your feet”

James 5:8-9 “be patient and stand firm, because the LORD’S COMING is NEAR (at hand)…The judge is standing at the door!”

Hebrews 1:2 “but in THESE LAST DAYS he (God) has spoken to us by his Son….”

Hebrews 10:37 “In just a very very little while, ‘ He who is coming will come and will NOT DELAY….'”;

Hebrews 10:37 “In just a very very little while, ‘ He who is coming will come and will NOT DELAY….'”; Hebrews 10:25 “as you see the DAY approaching”

1 Peter 4:7 “The end of all things is AT HAND.”

1 Pet. 4:17 “For it is time for judgment to begin with the house of God…”

1 John 2:18 “Little children, this IS the last hour… it IS the last hour”

Luke 21:20 Rome surrounded Jerusalem for God’s promised judgment.

4 The “cloud” imagery was the Old Testament prophetic way of saying that God was going to wreak his vengeance and pour out judgment on a nation. 5 God is said to have “ride on the clouds” and be “Coming in the clouds”…..but God never showed up physically. 6 So when the New Testament prophets (including Jesus) talk about Him coming “in the clouds” it doesn’t mean He is going to show up physically in literal clouds. 7 It’s the same Jewish prophetic imagery that the Old Testament prophets used.

8 Josephus in his account of the miseries of Jerusalem that grew worse and worse said: “there were seen chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour running about the clouds, surrounding the city.” 9 There was also a man who cried “Woe, woe, against Jerusalem” for the time of seven years and five months. It is well observed by Josephus that God’s judgment had come upon that generation.

10 To start with before we examine this closely we need to consider these two facts because in a nutshell this would totally solve the mystery of the Second Coming that so many have missed just like the Jews missed out on their Messiahs first coming. 11 The only difference was the first was a physical coming with Jesus Christ as God manifested in the flesh and the second with Jesus Christ appearing as a life giving Spirit. 12 That principle of interruption is in accordance to

1Corinthians 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.

13 The second appearing of Christ coming in the clouds of glory was happening during the Jewish war between AD66 to AD70. 14 What would happened in the Spiritual realm the moment that the walls of the Temple no longer stood according to Hebrews 9:8.

15 Everyone including the unjust dead were resurrected and have been in God’s presence and will remain that way forever seeing that the wall of separation between God and mankind had been removed. 16 When the Temple and it’s walls were destroyed in AD70, that was a sign and the time of Christ’s second appearing was complete, and the resurrection of the dead occurred with the fulfillment of the appointed time of Blowing of Trumpets. 17 Then when the Day of Atonement that followed the Blowing of Trumpets, was a sign Jesus had entered into the Most Holy Place after the Temple no longer stood. 18 The Father had already accepted the blood that His Son Jesus Christ had brought into the Father’s presence as He was yielding up His Spirit while on the cross when the veil was torn.

19 Through the Blowing of Trumpets and the Day of Atonement in the sanctuary service of the Old Testament, they reveal the judgment, and what would be the beginnings of the New Age that was to come. 20 After the death, burial, resurrection and Ascension of Jesus Christ there was only one thing that prevented the Second Appearing of the Lord and that was the Temple still standing. 21 As long as the Temple stood Jesus could not enter the Most Holy Place in order to fulfill the Day of Atonement for the restoration and regeneration of all things for the New Heaven and Earth so that all things could be made new. 22 Aside from Christ entering into the Most Holy Place for those saved during the first century after His Ascension, this was specifically for the deliverance of the Whole Creation in AD70 according to:

Romans 8:20For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and labours with birth pangs together until now.

23 This was to be done according to the pattern or type of the things that were done during the Old Covenant times with the annual ceremonial requirements that the High Priest had to do on the Day of Atonement for the restoration of all things for a New Heaven and Earth. 24 During the time between Pentecost and the Temple being destroyed, people were being saved by faith unto that Day of Atonement’s fulfillment when Jesus as the High Priest returned out of the Most Holy Place for the Whole Creation of mankind to be delivered out from the bondage of Corruption. 25 The day that happened was the day of a new beginning in that all of the world no longer would be subjected to futility and under the bondage of corruption of the law of sin and death, and where Hades held the dead. 26 The New Heaven and Earth was celebrated with the Feast of Tabernacles being fulfilled with God laws written in our hearts and minds instead of written on the hands and forehead. 27 Jesus spoke of a time when the Old Heaven and Earth passed away all would be fulfilled.

Mathew 5:18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled.

28 When the temple no longer stood, a New Heaven and Earth emerged and all things were made new and all of mankind were made alive by Christ.

29 Some Hyper Preterist say no one needs to be born again out from the Spiritual Death Adam brought to mankind which brought forth those laws of the Old Covenant; They say this out of ignorance that all things were made new meaning a new perspective on what being born again entails for the New Heaven and Earth.

30 With all things made new, being born again should be seen in a new perspective as in the parable of the Prodigal Son who was considered dead until he returned back to his Father and was made alive, and such is the case in the New Heaven and Earth where there are those according to:

Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.”

31 If Cyrus’s Temple was still standing up to this day, Jesus would still be waiting to enter the Most Holy Place where His blood was presented to the Father while He yielded up His Spirit on the cross; and we all would still be living with the same faith that the first century saints had and would be waiting for the Day of Atonement to be made complete as most Christians do today. 32 They were still waiting not really knowing that their salvation has been made complete because they had to endure to the end.

Matthew 24:13 But he who endures to the end shall be saved.

33 It’s a sad note on humanity that Christians today have missed out on the truth of the Second Appearing on Christ just like the Jews back in the first century missed out on the first appearing of the Messiah. 34 Can it be any wonder that both groups of people can not be worshipping God in Spirit and in truth until they come to acknowledge of the truth that we have been living in the New Age of the New Heaven and Earth since the time that the Feast of Tabernacles was fulfilled in AD70.

35 In order to understand how the Second Appearing was fulfilled back in AD70 let’s go back and take a look at the things which foreshadowed this event.

The Day of Atonement

36 God’s work of salvation, judgment, and restoration can be too huge to grasp. That’s why He gave us a miniature representation of the sanctuary service, set up during Moses’ lifetime along with the appointed times and Feasts of the Lord.

37 Everything in the sanctuary, from the articles of furniture to the rituals and practices of its services, pointed to Christ and His plan to redeem and save humanity with the ultimate Jubilee in AD70. 38 The sanctuary’s articles of furniture typified actual places in heaven. 39 The Ark of the Covenant typified God’s throne in heaven. 40 The appointed times and Feasts, and rituals signified what God would fulfill through Christ in the unseen Spiritual realm which Daniel spoke of in:

Daniel 9:24 “Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

41 The Day of Atonement was the final cleansing of the sanctuary–the day God officially removed the record of sin standing between Him and His people of Israel. 42 On that day which was a yearly event, anyone who had not confessed his sin and made things right with God was put away from the Israelites; The Day of Atonement was an appointed time and it was the most solemn day of the year that was not a feast day but a day of fasting.

43 Similarly, on the antitypical Day of Atonement, the heavenly sanctuary was likewise cleansed of the record of the Whole Creation’s sins since the beginning of time. 44 What took one day a year in the sanctuary service on Earth as a type, was fulfilled as the antitype after the walls of the temple which separated God from mankind no longer stood, for the Whole Creation in the Heavenly Temple. 45 This happened after what most say was on the 10th day of August AD70 which was also the same day Solomon’s Temple was destroyed by the Babylonians. 46 On the Day of Atonement in AD70 when Jesus entered into the Most Holy Place like the High Priest did once a year but when Jesus did it, it was the final entry and salvation was made complete and the Whole Creation was delivered out from the bondage of corruption.

47 Now let’s take a step back to when there were Limitations of the Earthly Service.

Hebrews 9:6 Now when these things had been thus prepared, the priests always went into the first part of the tabernacle, performing the services. 7 But into the second part the high priest went alone once a year, not without blood, which he offered for himself and for the people’s sins committed in ignorance; 8 the Holy Spirit indicating this, that the way into the Holiest of All was not yet made manifest while the first tabernacle was still standing. 9It was symbolic for the present time

Hebrews 10:9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

48 Now notice this that the way into the Holiest of All was not yet made manifest while the first tabernacle was still standing and that it was symbolic for the present time. I believe Jesus entered again into the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly realm for two purposes, once after He Ascended into Heaven to make Atonement for the believers in Christ during the first century, and then again after the Temple no longer stood for the whole Creation to be delivered out from the bondage of corruption when He would appear a second time.

Hebrews 9:28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

49 The earthly Temple was just a model of the Spiritual reality of what was happening in the Spiritual realm. 50 After the Temple no longer stood the way into the Heaven was open for Jesus to enter and this is where we have the appearing of Christ a second time without sin. 51 Other words to describe this event are The Second Coming of the Lord, The Returning of Jesus Christ, Coming in the Clouds of Glory and the Parousia, but with this event many other things happened as well in order to fulfill all Bible prophecies. 52 I think the reason why in Hebrews 9:8 where it says that the Holy Spirit indicating this, that is was in accordance to the taking away of the Temple so that the Temple in Heaven could be open up and established:

Hebrews 10:9 then He said, “Behold, I have come to do Your will, O God.” He takes away the first that He may establish the second.

53 Jesus gave them an indication when the Temple would no longer be standing in:

The Destruction of Jerusalem

Luke 21 :20 “But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her. 22 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled. 23 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people. 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

The Coming of the Son of Man

25 “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; 26 men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 27 Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28 Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near.”

54 After the Temple no longer stood Jesus entered into appear in the presence of the Father where His blood He shed on the cross which served for every purpose where the shedding of blood was required was used for the Whole Creation’s restoration and regeneration.

Hebrews 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.

55 I’m writing this article to show beyond a shadow of doubt that we have been living in the New Age of the New heaven and Earth, actually we are now either in the Second New Age or about to enter into it which is the Age of Aquarius. 56 Since AD70 up to now the world was in the Age of Pisces. The scriptures mention about ” the Ages to Come” in Ephesians 2:7 that followed the Age that they lived in at the time in the Old Heaven and Earth when they were under the Old Covenant which was the Age of Aries.

Ephesians 2:7that in the ages to come He might show the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

57 The Old Covenant was made obsolete through the shed blood of Jesus Christ but in Hebrews 8:13 it says that it was still vanishing away. 58 The Temple was symbolic of separation between God and Man and Ephesians 2:14 calls it the middle wall of separation. 59 The middle wall was in between the Holy Place and the Most Holy Place where God’s presence dwelt with the Ark of the Covenant.

60 When the Temple in AD70 was destroyed by God through the Roman Armies it was also a sign of the Resurrection of the Dead taking place, with all of mankind both dead and alive being made alive by Christ and by being in His presence which fulfilled the Blowing of Trumpets. 61 Therefore not being separated in Spiritual Death that Adam brought to all of mankind by being made alive by Christ. 62 No Temple wall standing, means no separation between God and man. 63 We have the Laws of the Spirit written in our hearts and minds which are the Fruits of the Spirit that fulfills the law to love one another and to love God with all of our heart. 64 When we have the Fruits of the Spirit we have the evidence that God’s laws are written in our hearts and minds, because having the Fruits of the Spirit will prevent us from breaking the commandments of God; no one would dare to take God’s name in vain or worship other gods or Idols etc.

Audience Relevance

65 How lets go back and take a look at a few of the audience relevant scriptures that Jesus spoke to to the people of His time while He walked on the Earth, and see if they make sense that His Second Appearing was to happen during the first century generation and not ours.

Matthew 16:27-28

27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

Matthew 24

Jesus Predicts the Destruction of the Temple

1 Then Jesus went out and departed from the temple, and His disciples came up to show Him the buildings of the temple. 2 And Jesus said to them, “Do you not see all these things? Assuredly, I say to you, not one stone shall be left here upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”

The Signs of the Times and the End of the Age

3 Now as He sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”

Matthew 24:33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! 34 Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will by no means pass away.

The Destruction of Jerusalem

1 Peter 4:7 Serving for God’s Glory But the end of all things is at hand; therefore be serious and watchful in your prayers.

Revelation 22:10 And he said to me, “Do not seal the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand.

Revelation 22:12 Jesus Testifies to the Churches “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work.

1 Cor. 13 foretold of a change to come and putting away of childish things once the perfect had come.

Revelation 11: 1 Then I was given a reed like a measuring rod. And the angel stood, saying, “Rise and measure the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there. 2 But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.

1 Cor. 13 : 8 Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away. 11 When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child; but when I became a man, I put away childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror, dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I shall know just as I also am known. 13 And now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love.

66 It is not my intention to bring judgment or shame to anyone today but many of the things we were taught were past day truths do not belong for us today. 67 Rather than pointing the finger and saying I’m right and you all are wrong, my intentions are to open our eyes and see where we can learn from the mistakes made in the past so that we do not repeat them and continue down the path or error. 68 Many of the things which the first century Saints did like water baptism and being born again were things done to transition them out from the Spiritual Death that they all inherited from Adam which meant that their separation from God had changed after all things were made new. 69 Those who still lived according to the ways that the Saints did in the first century nowadays are actually living in Spiritual darkness because they are not living in the light of present day truth. 70 The Outer Courts were not to be measured for the New Age that was to come but were to be trampled on by the Gentiles which was done by the Roman Armies. 71 The first century Saints lived by the faith that they had in waiting for their salvation to be made complete after the Temple no longer stood when the Day of Atonement would take place and being the final one, Jesus Christ would have entered into the Most Holy Place in the Heavenly realm where His blood was accepted for the Whole Creation is the Gospel made complete and fulfilled that Romans 8:20-22 speaks of.

72 After that event when the Temple no longer stood the dynamics of the Spiritual realm for the New Age that was to come, had all things made new. 73 To be stuck in this situation as most Christians today of not being aware of all things made new or denying it, they by the laws of the Spirit are in the process of needing to be refined by God so that they can abide in the truth so that they can worship God in Spirit and in truth. 74 To be in God’s presence today is to be in the presence of someone who is a consuming fire and we all are in His presence and we all have been baptized in fire whether like it or believe it or not. 75 The consuming fire that God is, will continue to consume everything which is not meant for the Kingdom of Heaven in the New Heaven and Earth where all things have been made new. 76 When we are at rest and abiding in Christ we are not going through the refining fire, and it is like the Sabbath Day where no fire was permitted. 77 The only things that remain from the days of old are faith, hope and love but not according to the Old Age’s ways because of present day truth and the things that they hoped for back in the first century were fulfilled. 78 Faith opens the door to a Spiritual mind and heart while at the same time cuts away the things of the fleshly carnal mind and the works that follow that, so that we can be in tune with God and obey His Law of Love which are the Fruits of the Spirit. 79 The things that we have faith in today in the Spiritual realm should differ a bit from what the first century Saints had because our faith and hope must be in all the things that are made new, for the New Age we live in order to be of Spirit and truth. 80 Only what is of God will pass through the fire and not be consumed by it. When we have the Fruits of the Spirit where love for one another and love God with all our heart is done, we will be like either gold, silver or bronze which does not get consumed in the refining fire of His presence because it’s those things which conform us into the image of Christ.

God’s Kingdom Has Three Domains

81 In the Outer Court there was the Brazen Alter where all the animal sacrifices were done. This foreshadowed Jesus shedding His own blood which made all of the animal sacrifices obsolete. 82 Then there was the Laver for washing which foreshadowed water baptism and maybe this is what Apostle John saw as the Lake of Fire when you consider this that in what Ezekiel saw according to what people call Ezekiel’s Temple, there were kitchens where the ministers of the temple shall boil the sacrifices of the people that surrounded the outer edges of the Outer Court.

Ezekiel 46:21 Then he brought me out into the outer court and caused me to pass by the four corners of the court; and in fact, in every corner of the court there was another court.

24 And he said to me, “These are the kitchens where the ministers of the temple shall boil the sacrifices of the people.”

Revelation 11:2But leave out the court which is outside the temple, and do not measure it, for it has been given to the Gentiles. And they will tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.

83 It all adds up to what John may have saw and called the Lake of Fire in a signified way with the Laver as a lake along with the boiling waters surrounding it.

84 In God’s Kingdom there are three domains. The Heavenly realm, the Earth and the Under Earth. The Temple was a type for Heaven, Earth and the Underearth and in the Temple there was The Most Holy Place, The Holy Place and the Outer Courts which were not to be measured. 85 The ministry of the Outer Court has no place in the Heavenly realm for the New Heaven and Earth because of this :

Revelation 21:3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. 4 And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away.” 5 Then He who sat on the throne said, “Behold, I make all things new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and faithful.”

86 The Outer Court ministry was all about death, sorrow, crying and pain where blood was shed for the sins people committed. 87 The New Heaven and Earth does not have the shedding of blood for sins but it does have the refining fire and that is what we are save by nowadays in order to be in the image of Christ. 88 We go through the refining fire when we confess our sins and the promise of the New Covenant we have more than Passover covering forgiveness, we have Atonement forgiveness where the sin is not remember no more..

Hebrews 10:16 “This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, says the Lord: I will put My laws into their hearts, and in their minds I will write them,” 17 then He adds, “Their sins and their lawless deeds I will remember no more.” 18 Now where there is remission of these, there is no longer an offering for sin.

89 We also go through the refining fire when others bring us into being accountable for our doings. 90 The refining fire is not the Lake of Fire that people have been falsely taught where people get physically burned up roasted and toaster forever for not being a believer. 91 The Lake of Fire is where the unjust are cast into in the afterlife; the Kingdom of Darkness is where their Spirit or conscience is tormented after their Spiritual redemptive body and soul are destroyed after their own personal judgment.

How Coming in the Clouds of Judgment was Signified in the Old Testament:

92 Here is an article I saved from a long time ago. 93 I do not know who wrote it but it could have been written by Terry Cropper who gave it to me. 94 It has some very important information on how Jesus would have appeared a second time in the clouds of glory like the Father did back during Old Testament times. 95 His appearing in the clouds was a Spiritual appearing and not meant to be taken in a physical appearing; Instead His appearing in the clouds was usually used to represent a day of wrath and vengeance upon Israel for being disobedient in Old Covenant times.

96 Look at how “clouds” is used by the Jewish prophets….and yet God NEVER showed up physically.

Deuteronomy 33:26 “There is no one like the God of Jeshurun, who rides on the heavens to help you and on the clouds in his majesty.

Job 22:14 Thick clouds veil him, so he does not see us as he goes about in the vaulted heavens

Job 37:13 He brings the clouds to punish men, or to water his earth and show his love.

Psalm 18:12 Out of the brightness of his presence clouds advanced, with hailstones and bolts of lightning.

Psalm 68:4 Sing to God, sing praise to his name, extol him who rides on the clouds — his name is the LORD— and rejoice before him.

Psalm 97:2 Clouds and thick darkness surround him; righteousness and justice are the foundation of his throne.

Psalm 104:3 and lays the beams of his upper chambers on their waters. He makes the clouds his chariot and rides on the wings of the wind.

Jeremiah 4:13 Look! He advances like the clouds , his chariots come like a whirlwind, his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe to us! We are ruined!

Ezekiel 30:3 For the day is near, the day of the LORD is near— a day of clouds , a time of doom for the nations

Ezekiel 30:18 Dark will be the day at Tahpanhes when I break the yoke of Egypt; there her proud strength will come to an end. She will be covered with clouds , and her villages will go into captivity.

Daniel 7:13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence.

Joel 2:2 a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness. Like dawn spreading across the mountains a large and mighty army comes, such as never was of old nor ever will be in ages to come.

Zephaniah 1:15 That day will be a day of wrath, a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness

97 The “cloud” imagery was the OT prophetic way of saying that God was going to wreak his vengeance and pour out judgment on a nation. 98 God is said to “ride on the clouds” and be “Coming in the clouds”…..but God never showed up physically. 99 So when the NT prophets (including Jesus) talk about Him coming “in the clouds” it doesn’t mean He is going to show up physically in literal clouds. 100 It’s the same Jewish prophetic imagery that the OT prophets used. 101 Remember, these were ALL JEWS we’re talking about. 102 They understood EXACTLY what Jesus meant when He said He was “coming in the clouds”. 103 They knew He meant that He was going to pour out judgment on them.

Yes, He did. He also said :

John 16:7 But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away , the Counselour will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you

104 Yes, He was talking to the disciples. He was telling them that even though He was going away for a while (40 years) that He was sending them another comforter who would be with them until He returned. 105 So therefore, He wasn’t leaving them or forsaking them. 106 They wouldn’t be alone for those 40 years of “wilderness wandering”. 107 God the Spirit would be with them (just like the cloud was with them in the desert of Sinai in the OT for 40 years) as a deposit guaranteeing what was to come….. And just like the OT Yeshua (Joshua) after 40 years led them into the Promised Land, the NT Yeshua (Jesus) after 40 years came back and led HIS children into the spiritual Promised Land…….the Eternal Kingdom. 108 Since then it has been a spiritual reality and an ever increasing kingdom.

109 Now here is what Josephus saw during the time of the end of the Age as the Temple was being destroyed in AD70

God’s Army Running about the Clouds

Josephus

Book 5, Chapter 6, Section 3

The Miseries Within the City

The apostle John tells us in Relegation that he beheld and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven saying with a loud voice, “Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabitants of the earth (Rev. 8:13.)

110 Then he tells us he saw locusts, who shapes were like horses prepared for battle. They had breastplates as iron and the sound of their wings was as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle (Rev. 9:7-9).

111 Josephus in his account of the miseries of Jerusalem that grew worse and worse said: “there were seen chariots and troops of soldiers in their armour running about the clouds, surrounding the city.” 112 There was also a man who cried “Woe, woe, against Jerusalem” for the time of seven years and five months. It is well observed by Josephus that God’s judgment had come upon that generation.

113 Here is an example how those will a Futurist view will put their spin on Revelation 1:7 for a future event where the whole planet will see Jesus coming in the clouds.

Revelation 1:7Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen.

Zechariah 12:10“And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.

114 Zechariah did not say in that day there shall be a great mourning in the whole planet, and the whole planet will look on Me whom they pierced; it says the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem would mourning and will look on Me whom they pierced. Apostle John draws on Zechariah 12:10 and uses it in Revelation 1:7

We Only Have Three Options for the Second Coming of Christ

115 Most Christians will agree that scripture is given by inspiration of God according to:

2 Timothy 3:16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

116 According to the standard of prophecy in the Old Testament is found here:

Deuteronomy 18:18 I will raise up for them a Prophet like you from among their brethren, and will put My words in His mouth, and He shall speak to them all that I command Him. 19 And it shall be that whoever will not hear My words, which He speaks in My name, I will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.’ 21 And if you say in your heart, ‘How shall we know the word which the Lord has not spoken?’— 22 when a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the Lord has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.

117 The Prophet that God was going to raise up was Jesus. Christ.

118 Most Christians today will say that the Lord has not returned yet making the writer of the Book of Hebrews a false prophet. 119 Not only that but is also makes all the other writers including Jesus in the New Testament false Prophets who claimed that His coming was at hand or would happen in a short time. 120 The writer in the Book of Hebrews wrote it around AD65 and said that Jesus would not tarry but we have been living almost 2000 years later and that is a very long time even according to all other prophecies in the Bible.

Hebrews 10: 37 “For yet a little while,
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry. “For yet a little while,
And He who is coming will come and will not tarry.

121 Now here is the problem. Jesus said that there would be some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.

Matthew 16:27 For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He will reward each according to his works. 28 Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

122 Some people when put into the corner and out of desperation will say that there are some here standing who were from the first century in order to justify that His coming will happen soon as of today. 123 I believe it is a little far fetched and crazy to say that. 124 Now if it was true we would still be dead in our sins and would be expecting the wrath of God on this Earth. If you are putting the Coming of the Lord into the future you are indirectly calling Jesus a false prophet.

125 We who are Full Preterist say that the Lord did coming in AD70 when the Temple was destroyed and the old Heaven and Earth passed away which was in the unseen Spiritual realm at the end of the Age.

126 The reason for the confusion today is because most Christians believe that His coming will be in a physical body return. 127 Now the problem with that is that you make all the Prophets including Jesus Christ out to be false Prophets. 128 If Christ appeared when He said He would it would have had to be a Spiritual event that changed the Old Covenant with it’s total destruction after vanishing away into the New Covenant in it’s full glory which is much more important than any physical coming could ever do.

129 Karen Rogers “Quote”: The Message of the Parables of Jesus

1 In the parables, the Master returns to the same ones He speaks to when He leaves (the first century Jews). He is speaking to them of His coming in judgment of the fleshly Old Covenant Israel (old Jerusalem) vs. the Spiritual Israel of the New Covenant (sons by faith = the New Jerusalem/New Covenant/Church). The vessels of wrath (those Jews who rejected Jesus in the first century) vs. the vessels of mercy (those who embraced Him as Lord). The same Master comes back to the same servants. The same Bridegroom returns to the same virgins. The same One who distributed the talents returns to the same ones to whom He gave the talents (first century Jews).

2 The parables are about Jesus leaving for heaven and returning to the same Jews when He came in judgement in AD 70 to destroy the temple, the sacrifices in the temple (an abomination to God as Jesus was the last sacrifice), the old Levitical priesthood (believers are now the priests of God – 1 Peter 2:9), the vessels of wrath (those who rejected Him), as He put a total end to the Old Covenant system.

3 Jesus promised His followers that when He returned, not one stone would be left of that temple or that system. The stars falling from the sky and cosmic “end of world” language represent the end of a kingdom using Old Testament prophet language (same language used by Isaiah when describing the destruction of Babylon by the Medes: “For the stars of heaven and their constellations will not give their light. The rising sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light.”(Isaiah 13:10) And used by Ezekiel when giving the message to Egypt when Babylon conquered them: “And when I extinguish you, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud And the moon will not give its light. (Ezekiel 32:7-8) This was NOT literally the “end of the world” nor is the language of Matthew 24 and Revelation meant to be the end of the world, but the end of Jerusalem and that physical kingdom.

4 Matthew chapters 24 and 25 and the parables are all about the “end of the age – the Old Covenant age” (word is aion for age, not cosmos for world), not the end of the world. It is the “last days’ of the Old Covenant as there are NO last days of His kingdom. His kingdom began then and lasts forever. This judgement was the end of the Old Covenant age and the beginning of the New Covenant eternal “age of Messiah.”

5 These parables were spoken as a message to the first century apostles and first century followers of Jesus to preach the gospel before the “end” or destruction of Jerusalem would come – before the “last days” of the Old Covenant priesthood system when those Jews were destroyed. The “age to come” or “age of Messiah” began with the end of the old age, the Old Covenant age of priesthood, law, sacrifices, temple, and system. The “you” in Matthew 24, 25 were those alive in the first century – His disciples, His audience (not us). We are reading the words of Jesus to them. These parables were specific to them and tell of His going to heaven and then returning to them in the coming judgment.

6 Of course, we are to continue to preach the gospel and will be judged upon our death, but the parables were specifically written to the Jews of the first century. Of course, the Bible message is “for” us, but the New Testament epistles and gospels were not actually written “to” us today, but to the first century church, who were the “you” of the epistles. The headings of the letters “Philippians” “Corinthians” “Romans” “Thessalonians” “Colossians” prove that these letters were written to them, not to us.

“End Quote”

130 Now here are the three options we have to choose from

1. That there are some here standing who were from the first century that are still waiting

2. That the Lord did coming in AD70 when the Temple was destroyed and the law came to an end which was at the end of the Age

3. That the Lord has not come yet because He has not returned physically

131 Sadly the common view of a 2000 year delayed return only makes Jesus look like He was a false prophet and if He was then the whole Bible would be in jeopardy of whether any of it is true. 132 Yet the Futurist view is thriving based on trying to prove that what Jesus said was referring to us today and had nothing to do with those saints in the first century who believed Jesus would coming in the glory of His Father as imminent. 133 Is it any wonder why one of His Disciples asked Jesus about when the Temple would be destroyed and how it was connected to His coming at the end of the Age. 134 Yet the Futurist view mades the end of the Age to mean the destruction of the Heaven and Earth.

135 With Jesus saying this in Matthew 24:48 about those in the first century who would have said My master is delaying his coming and Jesus saying that they were an evil servant what do you think He will say to those who deny His coming after He did come…?

136 If Jesus did not fulfill His word back when He said all things that were written would be fulfilled when Jerusalem was destroyed in AD70 Jesus would have been Judged as a false prophet by the Father and would not be allowed into Heaven and cast into the Lake of Fire for being a liar, so think about that as the outcome if the futurist view was correct and there would be absolutely no hope for mankind until someone else who was perfect came and died for our sins.

Matthew 24:48 But if that evil servant says in his heart, ‘My master is delaying his coming,’ 49and begins to beat his fellow servants, and to eat and drink with the drunkards, 50the master of that servant will come on a day when he is not looking for him and at an hour that he is not aware of, 51and will cut him in two and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites. There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Woe to Foolish Prophets

Ezekiel 13 :1 And the word of the Lord came to me, saying, 2 “Son of man, prophesy against the prophets of Israel who prophesy, and say to those who prophesy out of their own heart, ‘Hear the word of the Lord!’ ”

3 Thus says the Lord God: “Woe to the foolish prophets, who follow their own spirit and have seen nothing! 4 O Israel, your prophets are like foxes in the deserts. 5 You have not gone up into the gaps to build a wall for the house of Israel to stand in battle on the day of the Lord. 6 They have envisioned futility and false divination, saying, ‘Thus says the Lord!’ But the Lord has not sent them; yet they hope that the word may be confirmed. 7 Have you not seen a futile vision, and have you not spoken false divination? You say, ‘The Lord says,’ but I have not spoken.”

8 Therefore thus says the Lord God: “Because you have spoken nonsense and envisioned lies, therefore I am indeed against you,” says the Lord God. 9 “My hand will be against the prophets who envision futility and who divine lies; they shall not be in the assembly of My people, nor be written in the record of the house of Israel, nor shall they enter into the land of Israel. Then you shall know that I am the Lord God.

137 How many go apostate because of futurism thinking Christ failed.

138 C.S. Lewis seemed to think Christ got it wrong. “But there is worse to come. “Say what you like,” we shall be told, “the apocalyptic beliefs of the first Christians have been proved to be false. It is clear from the New Testament that they all expected the Second Coming in their own lifetime. And, worse still, they had a reason, and one which you will find very embarrassing. Their Master had told them so. He shared, and indeed created, their delusion. He said in so many words, ‘this generation shall not pass till all these things be done.’ And he was wrong. He clearly knew no more about the end of the world than anyone else.” C.S. Lewis

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